Sec 8 tenant and eviction process

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  • #3929


    We have a sec. 8 tenant that is a huge problem. She has not paid her portion of the rent, $42.00 each month since January. Housing paid Jan and Feb. rent.
    1. the house past housing inspection when the tenant moved to the house Dec. 1, 2017.
    2. the tenant was to get water and entergy service in December, 2017. (the routine is when the tenant calls for service at the house address , entergy and water company will disconnect us. (our account) and change to the new tenant.
    3. She did not get entergy or water until Jan. 3rd, 2018. The entergy and water were on us. The bills were in our names but she was the “user”. When I found out about this, I called entergy and water and cut off the accounts and paid the bills.
    4. We filed for eviction of the tenant. When we filed the tenant immediately called for housing inspection. The house failed inspection due to damages, etc. (needed painting, broken electrical outlets,etc.) THe house was newly painted and all passed inspection in December.
    5. We believe the tenant did the damages herself in order to avoid losing her sec. 8 voucher.
    6. Before she moved in the previous landlords were called but did not return the calls.
    7. I recently called the landlords and explained the situation of the house failing and so in. The two previous landlords told me “she was in a pattern of doing the damages herself” to avoid losing the voucher.
    8. Both landlords experienced the same “scene” as we have had. House passing inspection, then failing inspection.
    9. We had an inspection on friday. We also had eviction court on tuesday. The judge put the case on hold until April 9th, so we could make the repairs.
    Question: It is best to leave the repairs not done and force the move to another house? We want to be “rid of her”. The previous landlords said, just get rid of her that she was dangerous, almost cause a fire at one house.
    We will be glad to make the repairs but would prefer that housing move her to another house.
    I hope that housing can go ahead and move her. She also accused me, the maintenance guy and the ac/heating guy of going through her things and taking items. (This is rediculous). This is a first time.

    So, we are the 3rd house that she has been evicted from, in texas she lost her housing. NOt sure yet In Louisiana.
    We just want her gone. I hope we do not have to wait until APril 9th court. We are in hopes that housing just moves her. I would like to see the interior of the house at this point, but I do not want to trigger her in anyway, so that she does more damages.

    Should we just stay quiet and do nothing until we hear from housing on their decision to move her? I hope they can move her without waiting on the court date.
    This lady is a true psyc. case…..


  • #3931


    Generations of people who expect everyone else to pay their way has led to this.

    Everything seems great in theory. Help people out “temporarily” until they can get on their feet. Encourage available housing through subsidies and other plans.

    I don’t think there is much you can do but wait.

  • #3932


    Yes sir you are absolutely correct. In this tenant’s own way she is smart as she knows how to work the system and the people in the system. She has a track record of non-payment of rent (her portion) which is minimal, entergy and water bills and whatever. She gets “health insurance” for her “allergies” , she is allergic to everything she says. I will add that she has bucks to get the “long,nails done regularly” and the multiple wigs. HOuseing and the states are not doing their jobs in “cross-referencing” the social sec. number with her multiple last names. we found out yesterday that “housing is moving her to another house and landlord”.
    This is great!

    I think all folks need to learn to work and not sponge off the government and other folks.
    THanks for you reply.

  • #3934


    When u file for eviction include judgement for damages u may have to go to small claims but she should be shut down.

    If u have a “passed” inspection and then damages were done u need to press this issue at eviction or on papers

    We have a wonderful sec 8 tenant for years……this woman gives all a bad name

    Remember to take pictures before move in and have a tenant check off a “ condition “ list easily found and printed from the internet signed!

    Only problem I see is if u turned off HER account with Entergy and Swb. U would have to recover those cost in small claims. Entergy is pretty quick. But SWB is notorious for not billing on time etc.

    A sec 8 tenant isn’t afforded any rights any other tenant has. She signed the lease when u went for paper signing right?

    Good luck

  • #3935


    Yes let it fail

  • #3936


    Oops hit enter to fast. Did the Judge order the repairs? Why?

    U should be allowed to evict on any lease violation

  • #3937


    The judge basically did nothing but give us a new court date of April 9th. He was interested in what housing would say about this and wanted to know if we “did the repairs” by that time.

    I sent an email with the history of the tenant to the EBR housing authority, case worker and the DIrector of Inspections and told him what I had found out about her history on non-payments of rent, entergy, water etc and the fact that she had been evicted previously with the same repeated pattern. I told Housing that I thought it best “they move her as quickly and quietly as possible” and that I wanted to leave her alone and not trigger any more damages to the property. My son, owns the houses and I am the property manager. I had kept a timeline of the activities at the house and turned it in to housing. My son, talked with housing yesterday and they are moving her to a new location. SO, it’s gonna be interesting if she stays in the same pattern. All we want is her gone. NOw we are playing the waiting game and hopefully she is moved in the next 8-10 days or so. Housing has to find her a house.
    I have the pictures before she moved in, the house passed inspection with flying colors. Then when the eviction was filed, she called for inspection to “see the damages”.
    When she is moved, I will take pictures, etc.

    I also had the Federal ruling on sec. 8 housing: 24CFR 982.310, Owner termination of tenancy.
    so I guess the court date of April 9th is a moot subject now. However, I do feel like writing the judge and telling him the full story and that something should be done. I am sure Sec. treasurer, John Kennedy would like to get in on this bandwagon.

    This lady does need to be stopped. However, the judge just delayed the hearing and wanted the repairs. I didn’t get a chance to explain to him the situation at all. That’s why I’d like to write him a letter teliing him the “events”.
    I will keep you posted. The big problem is that she has several last names, same first name, all under the same social security number and the various state systems need to be cross-referenced. I would bet we would be in for a big surprise. The states systems of the different states need to be cross -referenced if a person is going from one state to another. THis is only my opinion.

  • #3938


    The house did fail, which is good. This is only temporary until she moves. I did ask housing to try and deal with her not to leave a mess in the house and move quietly. I told housing that I was afraid of more damages that she might do after they did their inspection and we failed. The house was newly painted and passed initial inspection in December, so it went down the drain fast. SHe did put up a $400.00 deposit, not at once but in several tries, this we will retain and use towards her unpaid water and entergy bills. SHe is really going to be upset with not getting her deposit back.

    RIght now, we are quiet and just waiting on her to move.

  • #3939


    I just found the BR City COurt document, it says I have court on April 9th at 10:00 AM. It also says that if I fail to appear a bench warrant will be issued for my arrest. So I guess I have to go. I sure don’t want to be arrested. Now, I wonder if she is going to show up?
    that’s the question?

    I will go and bring my documents, if she is moved, i wonder if she will show up. I guess she got a copy of this document, she left out fast.

    ANy suggestions on what I should do?

  • #3940


    I don’t know if the tenant will be in court on April 9th or not. I did receive the housing report. It says the kitchen and closet doors were down. These were put with all new hardware and worked perfectly. She either took them off the tracks or a small child that was there played on them. Said, electrical outlets were off or broken,
    (the house passed inspection in december, so who took the electrical plates off or broke them? Said needed a new AC filter, we just put the 6 month filter in , December 1, 2017. Said walls needed painting, all were painted prior to her moving in. Now that the inspection is over, i hope she does not do any more damages than are already there. I will take pictures when they let me know she has moved and compare with the ones I took when the house was finished in December.
    I hope the judge gives me a chance to say, that she had not paid the rent, nor the entergy and water bills. I don’t know if he will, but if he does not , I am going to ask him if I can explain the situation. I hope she is moved by housing by that time. I have asked housing to let me know when she is moved.

  • #3941


    Firstly Sec 8 doesnt “find” a tenant housing. A section 8 voucher is issued a voucher and has 60 days to find a place…and this cant be extended once… (that used to be the rules. When you rent to a sec 8 tenant the housing authority has no real jurisdiction over you or the tenant. the landlord is afforded the same rules that the lease imposes on the tenant. Sec 8 voucher holders are afforded NO extra exemptions from the LEASE you sign and file with the HUD when you sign all the papers. Make sure you send and itemized list of and cost of WHY you are witholding her deposit. You must do this within 30 days of the termination of the lease. If you dont have a forwarding address send copies to her at the address AND to HUD… she may backfire and accuse you of not notifying her of the reasons you are keeping her deposit and it can double on you… $800 for not complying also after court you may want to visit the HUD office and give the case worker copies of the rulings. If HUD paid you they may take back rent .. Unfortunately ver few are actually removed or have their vouchers revolked…otherwise the abuse wouldnt continue. Good Luck and remember PICTURES PICTURES before they move in and when they move out – do a walk through. do not enter the premises until the court allows YOU access….. Good Luck…. keep us informed. Also you have a right to screen your tenants even with a sec 8 voucher. its best to not let them move in until all the paper work etc is DONE!

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